I supposed “I just do” is kind of a bad answer? But I guess I should say with Onew, he’s a person that goes either way, for me. I tend to lean towards him probably being gay, but I don’t feel that 100% certainty that I feel with other idols and even his other members.
Sometimes there’s just “gaydar”. And, I think the bigger misconception about “gaydar” is that is’s visual observations based on stereotypes, but I don’t think that counts as gaydar, because even people with next to no gaydar can pick out very stereotypical gays.
But rather… I think it’s more about a vibe. You can get a vibe from very straight-seeming people with very little or no stereotypical “gay behavior”.
To me, Onew isn’t the most straight-seeming guy in the world, anyway. But… mostly it’s just that I get a vibe from him. It’s certainly not a “he is definitely gay” vibe, but more of a “hmm… that guy might be gay” type of vibe.
But, I think Onew is one of those guys that has that gentle disposition that can sometimes read as gay, when it’s not. He and Big Bang’s Daesung share this quality, which is why it’s difficult for me to say whether or not I 100% believe either of them to be gay. They also have the shared quality of not being very open about their love and relationship interests, and being mysterious in that way.
So, there isn’t much to go on to flat out suggest that they’re gay or straight (or bisexual, or pansexual, or asexual, or what have you.) There is fanservice here and there, and there are girls that they may mention or flirt with… But neither category is on a level that makes you go “ah, yes, definitely!”
I do lean that Onew is gay, but I don’t think that for certain… IDK if A2 answered about Onew before, though, so maybe one of us did say that we think with certainty Onew is gay?#onew #daesung
I answered a similar question earlier, but yes, the idols you mentioned are definitely idols that seem like they would be among the most willing to come out first.
Heechul doesn’t seem to give a fuck, in my opinion. In fact, I think he kinda likes the speculation. I think he’d have no problem coming out, if the time was right.
Jo Kwon seems open enough about his sexuality, and it could be only a matter of time before he openly said that he’s gay.
And Jaejoong seems confident and secure about who he is, and I think he would have no problem coming out, either, if the time was right.
I don’t so much think they’d have to wait until their group disbands (considering there’s not proof that they will ever disband. The groups could last for another 20 years for all we know)… but rather until the timing and conditions seemed right. Like, after military, and in a time in the social climate when people are starting to become less bigoted about queer issues.
It would still take a lot of decision-making, because any celebrity who announces that they are gay in a public forum (especially anyone who is the “first” something) is going to have backlash, and could possibly even affect the careers of their bandmates… so I imagine it would be done with much planning, and discussion, and much deliberation beforehand. But it’s possible, considering Hong Suk Chun has managed to retain a successful career since coming out (though for him, he had to suffer first and build his career back up.) I imagine that since that was over 10 years ago, it wouldn’t be the same for any K-celeb who came out now. They may still get backlash, but many young Koreans are very open to LGBT people and issues, so I think the 20-something and even some teen Koreans would be okay with it.
I still doubt it will be soon… but if anyone does come out, these three seem like good candidates for the first.
And I agree about Key. I used to think of him as someone who would be willing to come out, but he seems like he’d be too worried about the backlash and the negative effects to actually do it.#hong suk chun #key #jaejoong #jo kwon #heechul
I’ve seen Heechul with Gunhee, and I do think that it’s possible that this is his boyfriend. Of course, they could be just friends… but considering that the general consensus is that Heechul is at least queer in some way, and the type of relationship he appears to have with Gunhee, it does seem likely that this is Heechul’s boyfriend. ^^#Heechul #Gunhee #super junior
Thank you for the compliment! There are two of us here, and we try our best to answer without being disrespectful and offensive. And aside from being gay myself, I’m very interested in human sexuality, so I read and study about it a lot, which also allows me to answer questions here much better. =)
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I lean towards “yes”. They’re one of the main pairings that I believe was very real… and I do believe they loved each other. Maybe even that they still love each other.#yunjae #yunho #jaejoong
(Part 2) Not saying that she can’t be attracted to girls, because she just might be, for all we know. But for those who have known her since before her K-pop career began, it’s a well-known fact that she had a long-term boyfriend and it was pretty serious between them (inb4 any gay beard comments, lol no. From personally knowing them, it wasn’t gay bearding). She’s boy crazy, but when she’s in a relationship, she’s pretty committed to it.
(Part 3) It wouldn’t surprise me if she ends up having a relationship with a girl, though. She seems to be pretty open-minded with these sort of things (the Katrina kiss, anyone?). But for now, based on her record, assuming that she is a lesbian seem a little far-fetched.
These are all valid points anon, and I remember hearing about her pre-K-pop days and having a boyfriend and everything. I think it’s a bit much to call her “boy crazy”, though. Especially in the sense that before she was a K-pop idol, and when she was famous in the Philippines, she was much younger. I think many young girls can seem a bit “boy crazy”, but I think that has more to do with youthfulness rather than an actual personality or sexuality trait. Dara in the Philippines was a bit different from Dara in Korea, anyway… not completely so. I think she’s still the same girl. But she was, and rightly so, different.
And not to call you wrong, but a lot of people who consider themselves gay or lesbian (as in, exclusively that label, not bisexual, pansexual, so-on) have been in loving and committed long term heterosexual relationships that weren’t bearding. Bearding is a different thing. Bearding is getting into a heterosexual relationship to hide the fact that you’re gay, sometimes with a person who knows that they’re a beard, and sometimes not. But there are also people who are confused about who they are, or may not accept homosexuality themselves (yes, gay people can be homophobic or have internalized homophobia), so they get into heterosexual relationships because that’s what they’re meant to do, and they feel that it’s right, or they might not even be aware that they are gay/lesbian yet. Especially younger people, because for some people, their sexuality doesn’t become apparent until well into adulthood. They might know that they just felt off, or like something wasn’t right or was missing, but they don’t realize that it’s because they’re gay until later. (That is another reason you get gay men and women married to the opposite sex who later divorce them and come out. It’s not necessarily that they were using their spouse as a beard, but that they just didn’t realize who they were, yet.) Not everyone has the luxury of knowing they’re gay right away. Some people always know, some people wonder but aren’t sure, and some people (especially if they’re sexually repressed for some reason) don’t realize it at all until much later.
And for most of these people, they did LOVE their heterosexual partner, but it just wasn’t the type of love they thought it was. Love is a complex emotion.
I’m not saying that’s what was happening with Dara, but I’m also saying that her having a boyfriend doesn’t necessarily mean she’s not a lesbian.
Of course, she could just be open (which would fall under a category like bisexual). I definitely respect your opinion that going as far as to say she’s a lesbian may be a bit much. I just still have the opinion that she doesn’t seem very interested in men. Or, that even when she does seem to show interest, it’s not really an enthusiastic interest, in my opinion.
Also, Dara is quite shy, and does cling to the friendships she has. She probably has more friends in Korea than we realize, because we actually don’t see much about 2NE1’s private lives, the way we do with Big Bang members (besides Top…).
In the end, I don’t really disagree with anything you’ve said. I think you have some very valid points, as well. But I also feel that these things are a bit more complicated, in general. Not necessarily Dara’s life (as you may very well be right about Dara!), but in general.
Chaera is still a very interesting pairing.#Chaera #CL #Dara #2NE1